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January 31, 2008

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Jerry Smith

What do people think about using Routing to external firewalls, and why that isn't efficient... cost effective? Using external firewalls seems to allow for single point of failure... Vmotion of VMachines as security risk in this scenario is a major concern of ours

John Peterson

Routing traffic to external firewalls it costly from a performance perspective and difficult to manage. Each packet has to go out of the box just to come back in. There is a lot of memory copies of the packet going on in that scenario.

1. Virtual Machine Sends to Virtual Machine Virtual Nic Driver (memory copy)

2. Virtual Switch receives packet (memory copy)

3. Physical Nic Driver receives packet (memory copy)

4. Physical Firewall receives packet (memory copy / processing)

5. Firewall U-Turns packet back to physical NIC (memory copy)

6. Virtual Switch Receives packet (memory copy)

7. Receiving Virtual Machine Virtual Nic receives packet (memory copy)

8. Now I'm tired.... and the receiver ahs to reply and go back through the same sequence of events.

Seems like a waste right?

Also, just imagine managing all the re-routing of traffic to external devices all over your datacenter.

Seems like a pain to me...

What I'd rather have is something that runs within the environment.

Now as it relates to VMotion. That question comes up so much I'm starting to get VMotion sickness, but very valid concern.

I believe when a Virtual Machine gets VMotioned, its security policies need to VMotion with it. If you don't VMotion security policies along with the VM you risk that the administrator forgets to set up the policies on the new environment which of course creates a security concern.

-JP

Surender

Are you suggesting to make a VM to behave as switch and security appliance and then connect virtual interfaces of all other VMs to this switch?

If you are suggesting that security functions run in host machine as part of virtual switch, I think it is a bad idea.

Personally, I don't believe it is good to run anything beyond traditional firewall software on host operating system.

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